1 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,120 - It's hot. - Hmm? 2 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,920 It's hot. It's nice with nice weather, so far, but it can also be a bit much. 3 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,480 Yes... 4 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Starting to get a little nervous? 5 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,280 No. I'm looking forward to it. Why do you ask that? 6 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,200 I'm just asking. Considering the national meeting and all that. 7 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:30,240 I know that AUF would that Reiulf should continue as party chairman. 8 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:37,040 And that they think I've squeezed him out, but it's not true. He has squeezed himself out. 9 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:43,200 - It is his own fault, and AUF must understand that. - Yes, you can tell them. 10 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,280 Yes, I can say that. It's plain and simple. 11 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Maybe they haven't an equally clean version of that story. 12 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:58,160 I know how Reiulf has spoken to them about me, so it's good that we're going out there now. 13 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:04,440 - So that we can get to know each other a little better. - It is luck that you have me as deputy chairman. 14 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:11,080 - Yes, because they like you. - They love me, Gro. This should go great. 15 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Just don't mention the war, then we are home free. 16 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:21,840 - Nato, Gro. You must not talk about NATO. - I'm not going to bring it up. 17 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,640 - But it is possible that someone will ask. - They will do that. Then you must not say: 18 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,080 -"The thing with Nato, it's very complicated." - It's complicated. 19 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,400 - I am prepared for the debates with Willoch. - He loves Nato. 20 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,800 He wants us to be penetrated by the NATO penis. There is something else out there. 21 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:45,400 - Then it's good that we can talk about it. -No! 22 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:51,680 Because then you have to defend why we don't take distance from three million killed Vietnamese. 23 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,600 - We must distance ourselves from it, but... -As soon as you say "but", you lose the whole gang. 24 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:06,080 If they start talking about it, you know calm down on housing policy or environmental protection. 25 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Talk about Jagland and his overly tight shorts! 26 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,240 Yes, it was tight. 27 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,960 -And don't talk about Reiulf's departure. - I would rather not have to talk about Reiulf. 28 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,760 - I understand that he is well liked out there. - Well liked, yes. You can sign that. 29 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,760 - Everyone is looking forward to seeing you. - We are also looking forward to it. Right, Einar? 30 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,280 -Have you got the holes on Rigmor sealed yet? - Einar! We don't talk like that out here. 31 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Rigmor is the other boat. 32 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,560 She's for repairs, so we have to put our trust in Reiulf. It usually goes well. 33 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,520 - Exactly, yes. - Be so good. 34 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,560 -Do you feel the splash in your face? - Delicious. 35 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Hey, hey! 36 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,800 -Oi! -Are you doing well? 37 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Yes, it went well. 38 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Hello! There was a full attendance. Not bad. Hello, hello. 39 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,720 -Visa! -What did you say? 40 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:34,200 Please present your stamped visa for access to DDRU. 41 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,560 The Democratic Republic of Utøya. 42 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,720 Einar, I need some help. 43 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Sorry, there have been problems with the papers at SMK. 44 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:56,160 We ask for forgiveness, for understanding and a temporary visa on the territory of the DDRU. 45 00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:02,120 The Norwegian Prime Minister and her attaché want a temporary visa. 46 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 You know the rules. There you have them. 47 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Look here, yes. "Visa DDRU. The bearer of the visa is part of the people's community" - 48 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,000 - "and can stay on Utøya." 49 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,720 "The visa can be confiscated if the holder puts itself above the interests of the people." 50 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:22,480 - Understood? - That is understood. 51 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,720 - Then we wish you a pleasant stay. -Thank you, thank you. It was funny. 52 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,520 -And there's Jens. - There he is, yes. 53 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,040 -Welcome! Thanks for the last one. -Thanks. 54 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,320 -Nice. Are you doing well? - Yes, everything is going well here. 55 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,640 - I can follow you up. - No, I can take it, me. 56 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,480 -Yes, did the trip go well? -Yes, thank you. We were stopped at passport control, but... 57 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,560 You're going to learn that, you know, Jens. 58 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,760 This is where you will give your speech afterwards. Hang out first and have some coffee. 59 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:08,440 - I'd like to have some water. -Alcohol-free Utøya already a success! 60 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Revisionism, says anonymous chronicler. 61 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,160 Nato bastard, yes. Has it been renamed? It's a pretty clear statement. 62 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:25,080 I guess I'm dyed off watching dad work on it every day. 63 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,320 - Have tried to air that we must be more nuanced. - Are you hearing anything about it, then? 64 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,040 There are still people who think AUF should withdraw from the party. 65 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,480 -Is it still being talked about? -Reiulf got to comfort them after the double decision. 66 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:48,160 But suddenly there is something that pisses someone off over, then they take the rest with them, and then ... Yes. 67 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,360 -Ann Helen, do you have anything to drink for Gro? -Yes. 68 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 -Thank you very much. - Did you say hello, by the way? 69 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,960 -No. Gro. Nice. - Ann Helen. 70 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,360 - Hello. Led. Einar. Nice. -Ann Helen sits on our central board. 71 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:15,640 I have to fix something for the concert, but everything should be ready for you here now. 72 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,960 By the way, Will there be time for a Q&A afterwards? 73 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Yes, we hope so. Gro has a quite tight schedule, so we'll see what we get time for. 74 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Yes... 75 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,840 - Understood. - Have they started in there? 76 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Yes. Sturle is holding an appeal, hurry up. Then you might make it to the last three hours. 77 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Our parent party has become a conservative party which does not adhere to socialist principles. 78 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:55,040 They are written off in the hope of reaching new voter groups. In our spring they removed the objective - 79 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:01,160 - about a socialist society in principle the program. We see the same tendency in AUF. 80 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:07,320 I am glad AUF's national meeting chose to protect the socialist principles - 81 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,400 - which is described in our articles of association. Even when the editorial committee - 82 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,520 - and prominent members of the central government tried to water them out. 83 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,960 Very happy about it. But, but, but... 84 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,440 As our dear Reiulf Steen has the message again and again, - 85 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:32,520 - must we not be naive enough to believe that the battle is finished. It isn't! 86 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,080 Sturle is very committed. It sounds more dramatic than it is. 87 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,600 -Which formulations are we talking about? -A turnaround in our program of principles. 88 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,800 What was there again? The wage labor class... 89 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Stands in an insoluble conflict of interest to capitalism. 90 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Some of us thought that it became a bit categorical. 91 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,320 - I think you used the word archaic, actually. -Did I do it? 92 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,000 -What does archaic mean? -Old fashioned. 93 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,640 My input was that as long as we agree Marx's analysis of capitalism, - 94 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,840 - we don't have to be anxious to use his teachings or words like socialism. 95 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,520 We may have used the word archaic. Then we proposed to differentiate - 96 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:32,840 - our idea of socialism from communist rule Eastern Bloc countries. It wasn't that popular. 97 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:40,600 We must distance ourselves from dictatorships. But you would anchor it in private property rights. 98 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:47,560 With a formulation that was not what it was based on Høyre's party programme, we could probably agree. 99 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:52,840 Now it was just you and Sturle who won through at the national meeting. 100 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,880 - I have not asked for a replay here and now. - No, I haven't either. 101 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,040 -Have you arrived? - Awesome. Gro complained of a hot temperature. 102 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,840 - But I think she will do well. - I got a glass of water. 103 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Hello, everyone. Nice to see so many here today. 104 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Now you stick to it apartheid, housing policy and environmental protection. 105 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,560 - Then we leave a case of beer and go. - It is an alcohol-free event. 106 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:39,920 -Yes, that's why we... Don't talk about Nato! - Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland. 107 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Thanks for that, Thorbjørn. 108 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,720 It is very nice to be out here and meet you all. 109 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Someone I spoke to as Minister for Environmental Protection. And I can never repeat too often - 110 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,200 - how important AUF's involvement has been. You have made my job much easier. 111 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:08,160 And Norwegian nature and environmental protection are strengthened again thanks to an invaluable collaboration. 112 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,120 ... young people entering the housing market, and we must build more housing. 113 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,840 The Conservative Party wants to let the market control housing policy. 114 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Use of market forces can be effective, but it does not ensure a fair distribution - 115 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:35,760 - at a time when it is becoming increasingly difficult for young people to enter the housing market. 116 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,320 - Was there something? -No, just keep going, you. Sorry. 117 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,720 - Did you want time for a question-and-answer session? -Yes. 118 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:54,920 We don't mean to disturb, but we have a list of participants who wish to speak. 119 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Then we'll take it at once, so that those who wish to speak can be heard. 120 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,800 - PK? -Yes, hello. 121 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Trøndelag AUF wonders how state- the minister sides with the apartheid regime. 122 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,480 That's good! A good question. 123 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,640 It is obvious that the apartheid regime should be condemned. 124 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,080 And I mean that long this regime persists, Norway should - 125 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,160 - exercise an economic boycott of South Africa. 126 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,400 -Wild? - Hello. I have a question about a central topic. 127 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Many here feel an internal division, but also that the management in particular does not listen to the grassroots. 128 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,960 What do you think as prime minister and doctor about - 129 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,960 - that the largely adult youth here have been notified... 130 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,680 And I quote: "Leave the bottle and bring the good mood." 131 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,760 - Now I don't think I... - It seems that the Prime Minister is completely behind the mark. 132 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,520 - Right on the nose. -Thanks for input from Einar Førde. 133 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:17,320 It's OK to have a glass every now and then, isn't it? Proportionately, of course. Yes. 134 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,800 - Then it's Ann Helen? - I have a question regarding NATO. 135 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,320 We want clarity on how you intend to address our relationship with NATO, - 136 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,960 - nuclear weapon-free zones and advance storage of US war materiel. 137 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,360 - We generally have a good number of questions. - There was a lot to deal with here. 138 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,240 I can start by saying that I fully understand that this may appear somewhat unclear. 139 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,080 These are complicated and difficult questions. 140 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,960 We understand the issues, but what does the party leadership think of them themselves? 141 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:04,440 The question of Nato has developed over several years. And after the double decision arose ... 142 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:09,440 We are also aware of that. Do you mean as prime minister and party leader - 143 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:14,960 - that we should be a member of NATO and at the same time negotiate nuclear-weapon-free zones? 144 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:21,160 - That is the situation we have to deal with. - Get us the hell out of NATO! 145 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:31,280 To make the question a little more concrete: Does the party leadership have a concrete strategy - 146 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:37,320 - for how to facilitate disarmament and relaxation in security policy? 147 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,160 It is also a comprehensive question. 148 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:47,000 But I want to highlight the work to strengthen the negotiation part of the double decision. 149 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,120 A strategy had been to opt out of the shit! 150 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Why should we wave for Reagan while he bombs everything he falls in? 151 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Damn, that is! I'm bored! 152 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,080 - I'm so fucking done with that stuff! -Yes... 153 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,440 At least you can have a normal conversation. 154 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,680 -What if we opt out of NATO, then? -No, damn it... 155 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:39,320 If we opt out of Nato, how mean what do you think Norwegian security policy should look like? 156 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Yes, so... Should I answer that? 157 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Yes, or those who want to. 158 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,120 I can't speak for everyone, but one point that often comes up is - 159 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,240 - that we are not against the idea about a security arrangement, - 160 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:04,960 - but then work must be done towards a European one alternative that operates independently of the United States. 161 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,320 The point is that NATO is an instrument of power which is used to maintain the United States - 162 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:20,800 - and the West's power over the planet's resources, at the expense of the Third World. 163 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,720 We see bloody consequences in Vietnam, the coup in Chile, Guatemala. 164 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Indonesia! Libya! Haiti! Panama! 165 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,600 -Nicaragua! -Ante... 166 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,840 There are only blacks and communists who are killed there, so we don't care. 167 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:43,600 If we are to have solidarity with those who suffer during the USA's warfare, such as in Vietnam, - 168 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:49,560 - how can we be allies with them and enjoy the benefits of their military empire? 169 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:56,840 It is clear that we must have solidarity with the victims for all kinds of wrongful military activity. 170 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:03,080 It's good that you speak clearly about that. I still have some questions. 171 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:09,840 I would like us to discuss this further. But maybe we have to come back to that? 172 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,640 There are several people who ask for the floor. 173 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,200 -Strain? -I support Ann Helen's summary. 174 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,880 Very interesting post. And interesting, the thing with Nato. 175 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,400 - I think we have a lot to learn from you. -And we of you. 176 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:38,840 I do not understand how we are supposed to report in practice us out of NATO and create a European alternative. 177 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,160 - But it is an interesting thought. -Jens, I think you may have forgotten something? 178 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:56,520 - Was it today? I thought it was tomorrow. - No, you didn't think so. Come on again. 179 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,080 -What is it? - There was a talent competition yesterday. 180 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,640 The first prize was a trip along the Love Path with Jens. 181 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,720 - Sophie won. She sang something from… -Les Misérables. 182 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,760 -Exactly. - Super cute. What do you do for a living? Go away, then. 183 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,920 Hello. Hello, Sophie. You, I'm really looking forward to going on a trip. 184 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,880 But now I was in a conversation with the Prime Minister. Could we postpone it? 185 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Jens, you talk to me straight as it is. Take the girl for a ride, now. 186 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,720 Nerd, ass. “I'd rather sit along the Prime Minister than walking with you." 187 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,920 - Thank you for your input in the question round. - It wasn't meant to seem crass. 188 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:55,640 We do this because we are passionate about it. We are a little too used to management not listening. 189 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,120 There are limits to how long one can bear to be dismissed as naive. 190 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,040 I don't think you appear naive in any way. I hope that is clear? 191 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,240 I think we should set aside time at the next central board meeting - 192 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,920 - so we can go through these questions a little properly. 193 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,440 -Yes? Very welcome! - Then we can get the rest of the management involved. 194 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,920 - They're coming! Come on, then. - Just a little moment. 195 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,640 -Who is coming? -It looks like... 196 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,840 -Reiulf! -Hello, Reiulf! 197 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,880 - Exactly, yes. -Excuse me for a moment. 198 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Hello! 199 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Hello! 200 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:08,920 - Did you know he was coming? - He was supposed to give a speech after we left. 201 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,600 -Is it...? - Inés. 202 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,280 Has she been here before? Very welcome. Should I have taken Olav? 203 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,280 He has told the story about her, so they know a little about her. 204 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,400 She was in the government of Salvador Allende. Survived the CIA coup d'état. 205 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:36,200 Managed to escape from Pinochet's assassins. You know, that package there. 206 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,640 Yes, it... 207 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,480 I go get my things. 208 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,240 -Hello. - Welcome. 209 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,880 Hello. So nice. Looking forward to talking more with you. 210 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Thorbjørn, we thought maybe that we should get back. 211 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Sorry, hi. Mr. Steen. Cato, very nice to greet you. 212 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,760 - You can really just come with me, you. -What are you doing? 213 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,520 Steen has been detained indefinitely. 214 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,880 - Cato? -Not Cato now. 215 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,680 I think it's just a joke. 216 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000 -Cato! -Stay away! 217 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Let me out! Hello! 218 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,480 I have political immunity! 219 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,440 - Let me out, then! -Important message, everyone. 220 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,480 An extremely undemocratic faction who do not respect DDRU's legislation, - 221 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840 - has kidnapped Reiulf Steen. 222 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Despite the fact that the delegation from DDRU has tried to explain that we have a tight schedule, - 223 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:04,120 - the kidnappers refuse to release the political the prisoner before a ransom is paid to ... 224 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,920 To Alva Myrdal's fund for peace and disarmament. 225 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Do people want to hear Reiulf's post tonight, must we raise a ransom. 226 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,440 -It's not a ransom, it's more of a... -Revolutionary emergency aid. 227 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,560 - I forgot my wallet inside... -Of course you have. 228 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,480 I only have a 500 note, me, Einar. 229 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800 - Hello. - Be so good. Good job, you guys. 230 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,560 Very. Yes, we shall see… 231 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,400 I just have... 232 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,240 - I don't know if you can exchange this? -Thank you very much. 233 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,760 -Cato! - Look there, yes. 234 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Oh! 235 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:15,440 We avoided several arrests thanks to it a generous contribution from the Prime Minister. 236 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,960 Hell! Damn, that is! 237 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Is ... the boat ready, or? 238 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,040 Unfortunately. Fuel problems. It takes some time to fix. 239 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,400 - How long then? - About an hour's time. Damn typical, then. 240 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,640 Reiulf is always so reliable. Never no problem with me. 241 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,960 I can call the mainland and try to get the other boat over, but it may take some time. 242 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:24,160 There is a dinghy in Menshevika, but it is perhaps a bit modest for the head of state? 243 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:31,000 - I'm not too good for a dinghy, me. - We will get a proper boat. Can you hold on a bit? 244 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,760 Otherwise, you are welcome to stay overnight. 245 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,480 It would have been nice to get inside tonight, yes. 246 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,640 Satan in Hell, that is! 247 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,120 Damn! It's not getting fuel, that shit. 248 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,960 - Shall we just sit here, then? -What else? 249 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:05,120 We can go up. Now that you stayed taken into the heat. I think we should. 250 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Not so bad to spend the night either. Show up at breakfast. It is a declaration of trust. 251 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:22,640 It's probably a bit of Reiulf's scene up there now. Do you know what he's going to talk about? 252 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,840 He and Inés have taken care of it some political refugees from Chile. 253 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Well, yes. That's good. 254 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:39,320 The US does not come out of that story very well. So I guess the Nato debate will be ripped up. 255 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,200 He must pretend to be Nato opponents, then? Get some applause. 256 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,600 I get that they like him, but do they think really that Reiulf hits the table about Nato? 257 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,120 Fighting their case? He doesn't do that. He doesn't even show up at meetings. 258 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,680 Because he's drunk. "Where's Reiulf?" is the only thing they ask about in the Storting at the moment. 259 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,800 And then he's going to show up here like that? No. 260 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280 I'm sticking up, me. 261 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:23,520 And you, Aunt Sofie? Are you going to stare out over the water in the rain, or are you going to come up with it? 262 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Abrupt. Come on then. 263 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,560 - We're still going, I just have to pee. - There is a bathroom over by the Schoolroom. 264 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,400 Hi, I was looking for the toilet. 265 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,880 -It's busy, but... -You're Gro, aren't you? 266 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,640 - Yeah. Nice to meet you. -In the same way. 267 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,480 - You are Inés? -Yes. 268 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,120 I have heard a lot about you from Reiulf. 269 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,080 - Very nice things. - So good. 270 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720 - You live together at Nesodden now? -Yes. 271 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,600 - Do you like yourself? -Yes. I like the ferry. The Nesodd boat. 272 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160 The Nesodd boat is nice. 273 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,280 - Do you want to post here tonight? -No. I had it before today. 274 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,160 About what then? 275 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,640 Housing policy, for the most part. And NATO. 276 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,200 - Do you want to speak too? - They asked me for it. 277 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,680 But I just want to enjoy myself here. Reiulf has prepared something. 278 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,480 He does us enough justice. 279 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,200 Yes, about Allende and everything. 280 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,920 Yes. 281 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,600 - Did you know him well? -Yes. 282 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,560 Condolences. 283 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,120 Everything in order. It has been great to see this. 284 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,200 - You have something completely unique here. -Thanks. 285 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,400 -Did you meet in Chile? - No, it was actually in Stockholm. 286 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,640 But we want to to go to Chile together sometime. 287 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,920 -Einar ... Einar, now we're leaving. - Yes, but we have to wait for the boat anyway. 288 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040 -But then... - Sit down, then. 289 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,840 -Did you meet Allende? -Yes, I met Allende several times in Chile. 290 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,920 The last time was just months before the coup. Then we were in Valparai... 291 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 -Viña del Mar. -Viña del Mar, yes. 292 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:03,680 He was never pessimistic, though he knew it was, in a sense, the last verse. 293 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,480 He explained to us accurately and factually three different ways he could be killed. 294 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,680 And one of them struck. 295 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,760 The bourgeois like to say that socialism does not work in practice. 296 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,200 More people may decide to travel to Chile as an example of that. 297 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,160 As the right is on the rise globally, could it be useful to have a chat about - 298 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:41,600 - exactly what it was that went wrong with it Salvador Allende and his failed project. 299 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600 - Are you in on it? -Yes! 300 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,840 At first it looked very bright for Allende and the left. 301 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,440 They had powerful opponents long before they came into government. 302 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:11,160 There were a few Chilean families and American companies that controlled the industry. 303 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:18,120 The most powerful family was the Edwards family with chief Augustín Edwards. 304 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,120 They controlled half of the newspaper's circulation. 305 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,440 They also owned the largest newspaper in the country. The right-handed El Mercurio. 306 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Despite all opposition had Allende and the socialists… 307 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:41,600 The government that Inés eventually was to become Deputy Minister of Justice in ... 308 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,960 They had the promise half a liter of milk for each child every day. 309 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,920 And a sharp increase in the standard of living. 310 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,160 No one should be allowed to forget that in spite of them huge counter forces and how it ended… 311 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:06,440 In just three years, Allende and the socialists succeeded to supply each child with a pint of milk. 312 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:13,080 And they raised the standard of living for poor people. Unemployment fell. Inflation dropped. 313 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,480 They gave more people better housing and better education than anyone before them. 314 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,720 -And child mortality. -Child mortality also fell. That's right. 315 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,320 And perhaps most importantly... 316 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,040 They gave back poor Chileans a sense of dignity. 317 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:44,520 Those of us who have tasted poverty, who knows what it means to stand with hat in hand - 318 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,000 - and not knowing if there is money for dinner, we know that feeling means an incredible amount. 319 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:58,120 So yes, for quite a while it actually looked that way very bright for Allende and the left. But... 320 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,440 When Allende wins the election in September 1970 - 321 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:10,280 - and all that remains is for the Congress to appoint him president, one more thing happens. 322 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:16,800 And it is that Augustín Edwards, the owner of El Mercurio, he travels to Washington. 323 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:25,240 He has meetings with the CIA and the US chief security adviser, Henry Kissinger. 324 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Kissinger speaks with President Richard Nixon: 325 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,240 You ... must ... help ... Chile. 326 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,800 You must save Chile. We must stop Allende from becoming president. 327 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Nixon calls a meeting in the Oval Office with i.a. CIA and says: 328 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,480 You must crush Allende. 329 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,680 Don't worry about the risk. 330 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,240 Kissinger and the CIA go to Chile and begins to bribe and recruit - 331 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,360 - the most reactionary parts of the Chilean the military to orchestrate a military coup. 332 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Towards a popularly elected, democratic government. 333 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,120 But Commander-in-Chief of Chiles armed forces, General René Schneider, - 334 00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:24,120 - is loyal to the constitution which says that he should protect the government. 335 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:28,640 So he must die. He was shot and killed in the open street. 336 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,040 It does not lead to any popular uprising against Allende, as the United States had hoped for. 337 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:40,080 The people ring around the Allende government. And Congress appoints Allende to - 338 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,400 - Latin America's first democratically elected socialist president. 339 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:53,560 But military power is not necessarily so the most effective form of power. 340 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,880 So while Allende works for to give people education, housing and jobs, - 341 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:07,360 - CIA and American companies use huge sums up to destabilize the Chilean economy. 342 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,800 They bribe trade unionists, they bribe politicians. 343 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,560 The US uses its veto power in the World Bank to deny Chile loans. They boycott. 344 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:25,200 And puts an embargo on all imports. Absolutely disastrous for Chile's economy. 345 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,000 Nixon told Kissinger: You will get the Chilean economy to wail. 346 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,400 And he got what he wanted. 347 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:39,240 At the same time, the CIA and El Mercurio pump out an endless stream of black propaganda - 348 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,840 - about Plan Zeta, which was an idea that Allende planned mass killings of civilian Chileans. 349 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,200 A conspiracy theory that is just as fictional as it is cruelly ironic. 350 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:57,280 Because at the same time the US is planning and the Chilean military a bloody, bloody coup. 351 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,760 In a peaceful nation who had only made the gross mistake - 352 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,920 - to choose a head of state like the US and Chilean upper class thought was a little too Marxist. 353 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,280 Damn it. 354 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,400 The coup was led by someone named General Augusto Pinochet. 355 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,400 September 11, 1973 - 356 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:31,080 - the dictator launches a reign of terror the like of which the world has not seen - 357 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,760 - since Hitler took power in Germany. 358 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,360 Because Pinochet and the junta just didn't want to deprive the left of government power. 359 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:48,920 They wanted to clear the minds of the Chileans of it Marxist ideology they had been infected with. 360 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,000 Engaging in politics became illegal. 361 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:04,640 Inés' name was eventually one of tens of thousands on the dictatorship's list of engines of Marxism. 362 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:14,840 The first week after the coup was 100,000 people either put in concentration camps, - 363 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,960 - or chasing on the run, or ... killed. 364 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,800 And why that? Yes, because they called themselves socialists, - 365 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,880 - Marxists or Social Democrats. 366 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,440 Inés had many friends and relatives which disappeared during this time. 367 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,880 The US helped Pinochet to create a security police - 368 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,880 - who worked around the clock to monitor an eventually constantly paranoid population. 369 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,720 And not least to torture confessions. 370 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,040 And believe me, comrades, they know what they are doing. 371 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:10,160 They start by placing you in a cellar for a long time. 372 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,200 Without light, so you lose all sense of time and... 373 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,880 Yes... 374 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,200 We need not go into all the details here, but if you're a woman, then... Yes. 375 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,480 Yes, it gets worse. It gets much worse. 376 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,920 Then your corpse is disposed of out of a helicopter over the Pacific Ocean. 377 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,360 With your stomach cut open, so you don't float ashore. You just disappear. 378 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,080 What is the reaction of Henry Kissinger, to whom we awarded a peace prize, - 379 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,600 - when he gets a report of 10,000 corpses in the streets? 380 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:09,200 It is to call Pinochet and say: "You have done the West a great service." 381 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Democratic socialism never got the opportunity to unfold in Chile. 382 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,240 But before they were killed, tortured and chased on the run, they did everything they could - 383 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,760 - to build a society without differences. 384 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,480 While the country is now cutting welfare schemes and deregulates the market so much - 385 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,080 - that the differences increase and increase in step with the soup queues. 386 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:45,120 If you are lucky enough to have a job, you work most likely for financiers and brokers - 387 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:49,280 - which has happened unruly empire on privatisation. 388 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,080 Or the rape of the nation, as Inés calls it. 389 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,600 So Chile has become a perfect exhibition window for modern liberal politics - 390 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:06,000 - and its right to choose. Just so weird that so many choose hopeless poverty. 391 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,320 I've been talking for a long time now, but one last question: 392 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:25,040 Kissinger told Nixon: The interference in Chile will be one of the most important things you do as president. 393 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:31,000 Can anyone here guess why? Herring? 394 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,080 They were afraid of the Soviet Union should gain a foothold in South America? 395 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,600 A good suggestion, but in spite of the name "communist party" was it - 396 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:49,080 - the most moderate and the most Soviet-critical on the left. 397 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:55,240 The Americans knew that well, for Allende tried to keep a friendly tone with the US. 398 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,840 Other suggestions? 399 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:06,160 How can the US with the world most powerful economy and military strength fear - 400 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:13,200 - a bunch of peaceful democrats socialists in a poor country like Chile? 401 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560 Because they were afraid it would work. 402 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,080 They were terrified that it would work. 403 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:36,080 What they feared most was that Allende's project should look like a success. 404 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:42,880 It could prompt other countries to follow suit. As Kissinger said: They could not allow that. 405 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,520 Just because of what he called the irresponsibility of Chilean voters. 406 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,600 Remember that the next time someone snorts failed socialism in practice. 407 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:58,000 But remember what the Chileans achieved in just three years. 408 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,520 With the world's most powerful empire who worked against them. 409 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,880 Think what they had achieved if they had been allowed to be in peace. 410 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120 If they had been allowed to live. 411 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:22,360 But on the day of the coup, the Allende government stands in parliament and is bombarded by fighter jets. 412 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,680 Then Allende makes his last speech. He says, among other things the following: 413 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:37,080 I am sure that the seed we have planted in it the good conscience of thousands of Chileans, - 414 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,360 - will not wither forever. 415 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,720 Others will survive this moment of betrayal. 416 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,560 Sooner or later, preferably sooner, will open great avenues - 417 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:59,880 - where free people will come forward to build a better society. 418 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,800 Thank you for your time. 419 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,960 - Did I forget something? Olvido de algo? - You should have forgotten more. 420 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,480 We might be able to take some questions if anyone has any? 421 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,000 - Ali? - Thank you for a very important appeal. 422 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,320 Inés, thank you very much. 423 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:44,000 I was just wondering why you didn't make it clearer distance from Nato when you were party chairman? 424 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,520 Oh... 425 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:54,440 It... Although I had been against NATO, - 426 00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,040 - it was not my task to force through one's own positions. 427 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,360 -What if you could choose for yourself, then? - Fortunately, I don't get that. 428 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,760 But I think there is a difference on my generation and theirs. 429 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:17,880 I was born before the war, you after. Not underestimate how heavy that experience weighs - 430 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:25,520 - when our generation discusses security- politics. Or really all other politics too. 431 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,400 I don't mean to call you naive, but it can explain a kind of emotionality - 432 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,200 - which is the basis for why so many of us can end up with - 433 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,880 - to describe the NATO issue like very...complicated. 434 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:48,080 It's healthy to keep that in mind when you take the discussion further. I hope you do. 435 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:55,840 We can sit here in a circle and then discuss much we want. The point is that they don't listen to us. 436 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:02,080 The only one who listened to us was you. And now they've squeezed you out too. 437 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,000 - Come on, now we're leaving. - We can't go now. 438 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,760 I... Um... 439 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,760 It was... 440 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,960 I can put it like that that it was my own decision to withdraw. 441 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,640 And I could too have handled things a little differently. 442 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,840 Gro and I have had our disagreements, but what I tried to say applies to her as well. 443 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,440 How old were you, Gro? 444 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,520 When you had to cross the border? 445 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,160 -Five years? -Yes. 446 00:45:54,320 --> 00:46:00,880 Not sure you know that. During the occupation Gro had to take responsibility for his little brother. 447 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,640 Flee across the border to Sweden. 448 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,680 Five years old. Did you have younger siblings? at that age, you can imagine. 449 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,640 No one will be surprised then that she stands where she stands today. 450 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:25,840 And with Einar Førde as deputy leader, we can be confident that good choices are made. 451 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:33,400 Or as he says himself: The older he gets, the more often he realizes that he is never wrong. 452 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,240 Yes, Trond? 453 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,560 When the summer day lies over the land, 454 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,560 and you and æ have found us a beach. 455 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,400 And four cold lagers lie in the water... 456 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,760 - The boat is ready now. - It's very nice, that one, then. 457 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,880 Yes, it is. We can stay a little longer. 458 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,000 We have rooms ready for you. You just have to speak up. 459 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:13,160 - Maybe we should take the concert with us, then. - Just do what you want. 460 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,840 Don't stress. It is Utøya. 461 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,360 - Yes, then there will be a concert, then. - It will be fun. Huh? 462 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,120 Take off your top, sit down on my shoulders, we are 20 years away. 463 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:31,720 And we will struggle with the bill and the interest, 464 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,360 and the meaning disappears in what we do. 465 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,160 When we have to cross many a small chasm, 466 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,720 and often on a dilapidated bridge, 467 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,640 no one is as good as you. 468 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,320 No one is as good as you. 469 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,720 Look there! They drink beer. 470 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,080 It's criminal! 471 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,080 Hey, you! Come here. Come here! 472 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,080 -What the hell are you doing? -But... 473 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,720 Have a look at it. 474 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,280 Do you want? 475 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,800 I think I'll take this opportunity to go to the toilet. 476 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,560 - It's everyone's favorite song. - Which everyone wants to hear, in other words. 477 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,880 And then nobody cares. Good, Gro. That is why you are prime minister and not me. 478 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:48,600 Take it. I fuck with you. If you're going to drink, stand a little further inside. 479 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,520 And lend me a little quilt and an arm. 480 00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,080 For the day it is important and it demands us, 481 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,400 but the night is yours and mine and now. 482 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,520 No one is as good as you... 483 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,960 Poor... 484 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,800 We are many, we are half, 485 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,480 half of all who exist are women. 486 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,480 No, no, no. That's right, that. It should be like that. That is correct. 487 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,040 - Can I see inside, right? -Yes. 488 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,080 -What's going on? What are you laughing at? - We just laugh. 489 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,760 I don't know what you're laughing at, because it's not that funny. 490 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,920 Ann Helen, what happened between Jens and Sofie on Kjærlighetstien? 491 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,920 Now you have to listen. Poor girl. She says: He was only talking about Nato! 492 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,440 Yeah, but... She's only 16 years old. What is there to talk about, anyway? 493 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,160 She might find it interesting. She is a member of AUF. 494 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:48,360 -Which issues did you raise? - We discussed Spain's membership. 495 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,040 - And what does she think about that, Jens? -She didn't have many opinions. 496 00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,600 We need to change the order of who is going to wash the Nato ass too. 497 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,280 - We have talked about it. - Did you actually take it? 498 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,640 -Mass. - Jens, you don't even know where it is. 499 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,040 -Why are you smiling? - I don't know. 500 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,680 - Hello. - Hello. 501 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,360 -Are you doing well? -Yes. 502 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,840 -Yes ... Yes, you have greeted Inés? -Yes. 503 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:52,840 - We have moved in together. She moved in with me. - I understood that she thrived at Nesodden. 504 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,840 -Yes. - It's nice there. 505 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,440 -What are they going to do? - They should glow after crayfish, I think. 506 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,720 It's fun. 507 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,000 It is tradition. 508 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560 Precisely. 509 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,080 Would you like to watch? 510 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,600 -There, you know. - Look there, yes. 511 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,480 -Are they really allowed to do it this late? - No, by no means. 512 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,320 - But AUF rarely does what the adults say. - Exactly, yes. 513 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,800 -Fortunately. -Fortunately. 514 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,440 Robert and I used to too to look for crayfish there. 515 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960 - Robert? -Yes, my brother. 516 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,360 He was here a lot. 517 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,280 He led the local team in AUF. Was a trade unionist. 518 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,120 - But he died when I was young. -What happened? 519 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,960 His lungs could not withstand the gases in the factory. 520 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,360 Same as my father. 521 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,840 I don't think you ever talked about your brother. Or your father, for that matter. 522 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,880 There aren't many memories left. 523 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,480 I remember him during the ski race, then. 524 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,400 He was like you. Enjoyed skiing. 525 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,080 Nickel saddle? 526 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:12,320 The factory workers had annual ski races. Dad was very good at skiing. 527 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,240 I stood in the goal area and cheered. I was so proud. 528 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,760 Then suddenly he falls over. 529 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,600 He is unable to stand up. 530 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,720 I was so scared. 531 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,640 "What will it become with you now, then, my boy?" he said. 532 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,960 That was the last thing he said. 533 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,920 I always wondered what he meant by that. 534 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,000 Yes... 535 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,400 Nice to talk to you again. 536 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,440 - It's been a long time. -Yes. 537 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,440 It would be nice if it was like that here. 538 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,400 -What do you mean? -No... 539 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,840 We never sat here and figured things out, as it were. 540 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,960 Didn't we? 541 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,800 No. 542 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,560 I don't think I ran into you out here at all, really. 543 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,080 I took the boat in earlier in the day. Before you came. 544 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,840 Will we never be friends again? 545 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,480 No. 546 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,920 No... 547 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280 I guess that's how it goes. 548 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,680 -Hoo! -Look, everyone! 549 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,560 Shall we have coffee, pastry and selfishness? No! 550 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,720 -Classic. -Oh? 551 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,960 - That song. Do you know it? -No. 552 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,920 Huh? Don't you? You have to learn it. 553 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,080 We are AUF-ers. 554 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,080 That's most of the people we meet. 555 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:37,880 Take and be a little more aware. Show the others that you are a socialist. 556 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,600 Well, yes! 557 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,240 We are AUF-ers. 558 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,240 That's most of the people we meet. 559 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,240 Take and be a little more aware. 560 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,400 Show the others that you are a socialist.